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First-Date Ideas That Are Not a Loud, Crowded Bar

The default first date is drinks at a crowded bar, and it is a bad default. You cannot hear each other, alcohol is doing the talking, and there is no natural way to end it if things are flat. A good first date does three things: lets you actually talk, keeps the stakes low, and has a clean exit. Here are ideas that do all three.

Why the bar is the wrong default

A loud bar hides the two things a first date is supposed to reveal: whether you can talk to each other and whether you enjoy being around each other. It also has no built-in ending, so a mediocre date drags. Almost anything on this list beats it. For the full argument, see the case for the low-pressure first date.

Walk-and-talk dates

Do-something dates

Low-key food dates

What makes any of these work

In Seattle, most of these map straight onto real places. We list specific ones in the best low-key first-date spots in Seattle.

The point

The best first date is one where you can hear each other, the stakes are low, and either of you can leave without it being weird. That is almost never a loud, crowded bar. Pick something short, cheap, and easy to talk over, and the date can actually do what it is for.

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